In The Matter Of:
United States vs.
PFC Bradley E. Manning
Vol. 15
July 8, 2013
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VOLUME XV
IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY
UNITED STATES
VS.
MANNING, Bradley E., PFC COURT-MARTIAL
U.S. Army, xxx-xx-9504
Headquarters and Headquarters Company,
U.S. Army Garrison,
Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall,
Fort Myer, VA 22211
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The Hearing in the above-entitled matter was
continued on Monday, July 8, 2013, commencing at 9:30
a.m., at Fort Meade, Maryland, before the Honorable Colonel
Denise Lind, Judge.
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APPEARANCES :
ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT:
MAJOR ASHDEN FEIN
CAPTAIN ANGEL OVERGAARD
CAPTAIN JOSEPH MORROW
ON BEHALF OF THE ACCUSED:
DAVID COOMBS, ESQUIRE
MAJOR THOMAS HURLEY
CAPTAIN JOSHUA TOOMAN
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INDEX
July 8, 2013
WITNESS : Chief Joshua Ehresman Page
Direct Examination 7
Cross Examination 48
Redirect Examination 73
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PROCEEDINGS
Motion for directed verdict 104 offense?
Second motion for directed 1030 verdict offense.
Three, motion for directed verdict 641 offenses,
accepting the USFI globe address list. And, four,
motion for directed verdict, the USFI global address
list.
(Issues with video feed)
(Playing video)
MR. COOMBS: Defense would request a
ten-minute comfort break .
THE COURT: Any objection?
MAJOR FEIN: No, ma'am.
THE COURT: Court is in recess until
quarter after 11:00.
(Hearing recessed at 11:03 a.m.)
(Hearing resumed at ll:2o a.m.)
THE COURT: The Court is called to order.
Let the record reflect all parties present when the
Court last recessed are again present in court .
Over the recess I was advised that the
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media field was not working for the first 20 minutes
approximately of the session that was last held and
some of the video that was played was not
broadcasted in the media center; is that correct?
MAJOR FEIN: Yes, ma'am. United States
will make available during the lunch recess, Your
Honor, a computer with the video with Defense
Exhibit — the Defense Exhibit available for members of
the media to view.
THE COURT: The video, is that a
prosecution exhibit?
MAJOR FEIN: I'm sorry, it was P15 that was
played.
THE COURT: Any objection.
MR. COOMBS: No objection, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Is there anything else we need
to address before we broad.
MAJOR FEIN: No, ma'am.
MR. COOMBS: Defense calls CW-2 Joshua
Ehresman .
Whereupon,
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CHIEF JOSHUA EHRESMAN,
called as a witness, having been first duly sworn to
tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the
truth, was examined and testified as follows:
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. COOMBS:
Q Chief Ehresman, what is your military
specialty?
A I'm an intelligence analyst technician,
sir .
Q How long have you had that MLS?
A I've been a warrant officer for about seven
years, sir.
Q What was your highest enlisted rank before
you became a warrant officer?
A Sergeant First Class, sir.
Q When were you a member of second BCT 10th
Mountain Division, the S2 section?
A From early 2008 to late 2011, sir.
Q Did you deploy with your unit to Iraq?
A Yes, sir.
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Q And what was your duty position actually
before the deployment to Iraq.
A The fusion tech, sir.
Q And can you explain what that was?
A I was overall responsible for the products
that come out of our shop, sir.
Q And this was the intelligence products?
A Yes, sir.
Q And when did you actually deploy to Iraq?
A In November of 2009, sir.
Q And why were you deploying after?
A Because I was going through surgery. I had
surgery on both of my ankles and it prohibited me from
leaving when they all left .
Q Where did you work once you arrived in
Iraq?
A In the fusions .
Q I want to ask you: You the fusion section,
was that in the T-SCIF?
A Yes, sir.
Q I want to ask you a few questions about the
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T-SCIF operations during the deployment . Okay?
A Yes, sir.
Q Did the T-SCIF ' s have CDs in it?
A Yes.
Q What were those CDs being used for?
A For passing information — the products
that were developed were too big to e-mail to each
other and to pass to our Iraqi counterparts. So we
would have to put them on the CDs and transport them by
hand.
Q And were these CDs — if you ' re putting
product on that, were you putting classified
information on the CDs?
A Yes, sir.
Q Were these CDs always appropriately marked?
A Not always, sir.
Q And why not?
A I don ' t know .
Q What would happen to the CDs after you
burned information down on them?
A We would write on it what we had on that —
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what we put on that CD and when we were done with it we
destroyed or recopied over.
Q Were soldiers in the S2 authorized to burn
information from their D6A computers down CDs?
A Yes, sir.
Q And why would a analyst do that?
A Well, like we was talking about with the
size of the products, sometimes we had to put them on
that to transport them to another computer just in case
it crashed or we go had to go to a different location
to use that information, sir.
Q Did you ever have any problems with the
servers going down?
A Yes, sir.
Q And was it common for analysts to burn
information in order to have it on a CD to have it on
their own library?
A Yes.
Q Was at the a permitted practice?
A Yes, sir.
Q Was it also common for an analyst to save
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information down from a hard drive down to their
individual computer?
A Yes, sir.
Q By saving onto the computer ' s hard drive or
saving onto a CD, what did that enable you to do?
A Well, if your computer crashed or it was
like a save, an automatic save. If something went
wrong, the server went down, or the computer crashed,
you had your information and didn 1 t lose it all and
have to start from scratch. It usually took 20 minutes
to five hours to download one item. So it was terrible
to try to do it again. It was time.
Q So having on it CD that enabled you not to
have to rely upon the server?
A Yes, sir, it was more expedient.
Q Did the S2 section ever have any problems
with the D6A computers crashing?
A Yes, sir, all the time.
Q How often would they crash?
A All the time. I mean, some — like the one
that PFC Manning used, it crashed at least daily.
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Q What about our D6A?
A All of in them did, sir. Every single D6
crashed at least once every other day.
Q Did you work off of a D6A computer ?
A Yes, sir.
Q How many times did your D6A crash?
A Mine crashed at least once every two or
three days .
Q When an analyst's laptop would crash, what
would they do?
A We would have to move to another system
until we could get that one either fixed or running
back up, sir.
Q How long would it usually take to get the
computer fixed or working off another laptop?
A Depending on what was wrong with it,
sometimes we had to send them back to the main
(INAUDIBLE) and sometimes it could be fixed by
Mr . Millman or somebody local . Sometimes it just
needed to cool off.
Q Would you always get your information back
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after your D6A crashed?
A No, sir.
Q Have you had any experience where you lost
information —
A Yes, sir.
Q — because of a D6A crashing?
A Yes, sir.
Q If an analyst wanted to, could they burn
information down onto a CD in order to avoid listing
information in the event that their computer might
crash?
A Why he is.
Q Was that a permitted practice in the S2
section?
A Yes, sir.
Q And, Chief, you're doing fine. Have you
ever testified before?
A Yes, sir.
Q If you could just let me complete my entire
question. You're doing fine, but occasionally you have
a yes or no before complete my question. Okay?
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A Yes, sir.
Q Thank you, Chief.
Were there any rules on what an analyst
could or could not burn down onto a CD?
A No, sir.
Q So if it was on the T-Drive, for example —
what was a T-Drive, by the way?
A That was the shared drive, sir.
Q If it was on the T-Drive, could an analyst
burn anything they wanted from the T-Drive onto a CD?
A Yes.
Q What about the SIPRnet, could an analyst
burn something down from the SIPRnet onto a CD?
A Yes, sir.
Q Was it common for analysts to do so?
A Yes, sir.
Q Do you recall if the S2 section ever put
out any rules or guidance as to what you could or could
not burn down onto a CD?
A No, sir.
Q I want to ask you a few questions now about
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how the S2 section was divided up during the
deployment . Okay?
A Yes, sir.
Q How many times analysts did you have
working in the T-SCIF?
A Completely I think we have three . I think
it was nine or ten, sir, enlisted.
Q Did you have a current ops and a future
ops?
A Yes, sir.
Q And where was the current ops located?
A Current ops was out in the top area where
everything was going on and the SCIF was in the back .
Q And I guess in the back is that where the
future ops was?
A Yes, sir.
Q And what did analysts work on when they
were working in the future ops?
A In the future ops they worked on
establishing trends and identifying patterns .
Q What section did PFC Manning work in?
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A Future ops, sir.
Q Were the products that PFC Manning was
working on, were they used for real-time on the
battlefield decisions or were they the used for kind of
establishing trends for future operations?
A Both, sir.
Q How were they used for real-time
information?
A Well, if something happened that-an ID or
some kind of action happened, the troops in contact,
then when we established something to our pattern
analyst we could give that to the current ops and let
them know that this is probably going to happen because
of what we ' ve seen in the past .
Q Okay. So that would be something that
happens on the battlefield (INAUDIBLE) alerts to it and
you would do some research on it?
A Yes, sir.
Q And what about for future ops, how would
his work products be used for those?
A So we could better establish TTPs, or
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tactics, techniques, and procedures to alert soldiers
that were going out and leaders that were going out to
give them a better understanding of the battlefield,
sir .
Q How many shifts did the T-SCIF run?
A When I first got there, there was two,
there was a day and a night shift, sir.
Q Do you recall — I know it 1 s been a little
while, but do you recall the general hour time periods
for the day and night shift?
A I'm pretty sure it was 09 to 21 and then 21
to 09. I think that's what it was, sir.
Q So 09 and 21 the day shift and 21 to 09 the
night shift?
A Yes, sir.
Q How many analysts, I guess, were on each
shift?
A We had two — five enlisted and one
officer, maybe one NCO on each shift, sir.
Q Do you recall what shift PFC Manning was on
when they started?
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A Night shift, sir.
Q And who were his supervisors on the night
shift?
A We were when we were deployed his
supervisor was Specialist Paggent was his immediate
supervisor .
Q Did you have a NCO on the night shift?
A No. Well, we had (INAUDIBLE) Atkins was
working both, but I don't remember anybody else.
Q Did you have an OIC on the night shift?
A We did at first we had I think it was
Captain Keay was the original OIC at night, but after
the chain of command got shifted up and when
(INAUDIBLE) had to leave and we had to switch that up
little bit.
Q Do you have if an officer replaced him?
A No one replaced him directly, sir.
Q How long — and I know again this is a
while ago, but how long was Captain Keay the NCOIC on
the night shift?
A Maybe two months, sir.
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Q Going back to the NCOIC, the night NCOIC,
what were their responsibilities?
A Just to make sure that the direction that
was provided to them at shift change was conducted and
then make sure that the soldiers got chow and
everything, sir.
Q At least for the night shift did I
understand you correctly that it was a specialist and
not an NCO?
A I know there was an NCO there at first, but
somewhere in that — where we had to go through a lot
of changes we lost the NCO and Specialist Paggent had
to step up and be the NCO.
Q With regard to the night shift analyst,
what were they generally tasked to do?
A Our catch up work basically, sir. They
were — they had to provide the stuff that we couldn't
attend to during the day because of the uptempo.
Q Can you give the Court an example of what
that would be?
A A data mine or consolidation of a specific
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attack or a specific event in a certain area by a
certain group.
Q Do you recall what work specifically PFC
Manning did on the night shift?
A He did that, sir.
Q Did he ever do anything dealing with the
Iraqi elections?
A Well, for trends, yes, sir. For trends of
the past elections, yes, he gathered that.
Q And, again, any in kind of a general
unclassified description of would he would be doing on
the night shift?
A For the elections or?
Q For the elections, yes.
A For elections, sir, we would find trends
that happened during the last elections and see if we
could set up something to identify the people that were
going to participate in this election so they would
have some kind of idea of what might happen or
indicators .
Q And if he wasn ' t working on that did he
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ever do anything dealing with counter IAD?
A Yes, sir.
Q And, again, in a general unclassified
description, what would he be doing with regards to
counter ID?
A Techniques and procedures, tactics,
techniques, and procedures.
Q As he's doing that, can you describe in
general what that product might look like when he was
done and turned it in?
A We had density plots . We had maps . We had
examples of things that had happened. I mean, there's
a myriad of things that we did for predicting what we
thought would happen or how it would happen .
Q You said density plots, what are those?
A It ' s basically a map of the area and it
would have colors from the intensity or the amount of
attacks that we had in that specific area, and that's a
density plot, sir.
So if there was a lot of attacks in that
specific area it would be red and the lighter the
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colors got back to green there would no attacks . So
that would be a density plot .
Q And you had earlier said the term data
mining, what is data mining?
A That ' s pulling everything you can from
every bit of intelligence assets you've got to help
build your products .
Q Would you expect (INAUDIBLE) list of data
mining?
A Yes, sir.
Q Why is that?
A Because you can't go off one source of
intelligence to predict something to happen. You have
to have other stuff that indicate that it's going to
happen. You can't just guess.
Q Where do analysts obtain their information
that they ' re data mining?
A Everywhere, sir. We got them on the SIPR,
we got them from the T-Drive . We got them from
wherever we could, open source, anything.
Q And correct me if I'm wrong, when I think
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of the term data mining, what you just described, is
basically an analyst looking at everything and anything
that they can, at any location just to kind of figure
out would this perhaps be relevant to what I'm doing,
is that correct, or would you provide a different
definition for it?
A Yes, sir.
Q Yes, sir, that's —
A That ' s correct . You ' re trying to find out
yes or no this is going to happen, and, yes, this is
how it's happened and this is why it's happening. So
you have to confirm or deny your assessment.
Q Now, with regards to I guess when you're
doing this was the any guidance put out that if your
you're data mining you can do everything but go to this
particular area on SIPRnet?
A No, sir.
Q So were there any restrictions on what you
would data mine on SIPRnet?
A No, sir.
Q Was it common for a soldiers or analysts to
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data mine?
A Yes, sir.
Q Did analysts also use open source
information?
A Yes, sir.
Q And what is open source information?
A That's regular Internet, sir.
Q How would an analyst use an open source?
A We would get on and check out the web pages
or you can check out local newspaper or it ' s anything
that doesn ' t come through our secret or higher
confidential webs.
Q And, again, in kind of a general
description, how would open source information help
your work products?
A Sometimes some of the media had information
that we didn't find out through our patrols or
something. We could get patrol report and they would
have outside information or a different point of view
from what happens . So we would use that in our
assessment, sir.
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Q And were analysts encouraged to use open
source information for their work products?
A Yes, sir.
Q Was there any sort of restriction placed
out by the S2 section of you can go to every place
besides these sites on open source?
A There was no restriction, sir.
Q Did analysts ever use the CIDNE database?
A Yes, sir.
Q Can you explain what the CIDNE database is
in general?
A Every kind of action or any kind of report
put on so that specific database.
Q How many — I guess, well first of all,
SigActs is that one of the databases on CIDNE database
A Yes.
Q How many our databases besides SigActs is
in CIDNE?
A I know there's five at least that's on
their, sir, but there's a lot.
Q With regard to the CIDNE?
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THE COURT: Five what?
THE WITNESS: There's five different key
areas that you can check from.
BY MR. COOMBS:
Q With regards to those areas, so you have
SigActs at one area, do you recall any other of the
areas?
A Yes, sir. There's IADs, there's small arms
fire, there's kidnapping, arson, criminal activities.
Q And on each of those areas if you went to
that database you would find information in it I guess?
A Yes, sir.
Q Are we talking a little information or a
lot of information?
A Every bit of information that they had on
that event, sir.
Q And what about the size of the database for
the CIDNE database?
A The report could be one sentence long or it
could be 50 or 60 pages long.
Q Are you familiar with the center for Army ' s
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lessons learned?
A Yes, I am, sir.
Q What is your, I guess, understanding of
center for Army ' s lessons learned?
A That ' s where people write in information
that they have discovered or tactics or whatever to
help other people understand what we 1 re fighting or to
get better.
Q Is the CIDNE database something like that?
A No, I don't think so, sir.
Q And why not?
A Well, the CIDNE database is a historic
record of everything that we have reported, where the
center of Army lessons learned is things that we've
identified how to counteract them or to help us.
Q So SigAct, correct me if I'm wrong, then
the CIDNE database would be an historical account of
what happened and the Center for Army ' s lessons learned
would be a lessons learned based upon what happened and
how we can change for the future?
A Yes, sir.
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Q How does a SigAct — if you know, how does
a SigAct get into the CIDNE database?
A There's a couple of different ways it could
get put into there, but usually it's a report that's
put in from (INAUDIBLE) and a patrol they could have a
patrol debrief or something and they could be in place
by a person that has administrative rights .
Q So let ' s go ahead and kind of describe this
out. Some if I'm a unit and I'm going down a main
supply route and I take in some enemy contact and I
call that in, can you, from that point, kind of walk
forward of what just happened to me and my unit on this
main supply route that might eventually end up on the
CIDNE database?
A Yes, sir. Every report that is established
from that incident will eventually make it onto CIDNE .
They'll go from that initial report can be submitted to
that TOK to that brigade, and that brigade
administrator will put that in the CIDNE database and
then as well as the patrol debriefs and any other thing
that follows that incident they ' re written up summary
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of what happened will go, be reviewed, and then it will
be placed in a CIDNE so other people can look at it and
learn what happened.
Q Does a SigAct go through a period of time
where it ' s being changed once it ' s been initially
reported?
A There is two weeks before they get put on
there, at least two weeks before a CIDNE act is on
their, sometimes they can be altered up to, you know, a
couple of months .
Q And when a SigActs is finally put into the
CIDNE database, is it automatically classified or do
you know?
A I don't know, sir.
Q Do you know how a SigActs is or is not
classified?
A No, sir.
Q From your standpoint, are you — do you
know if a SigActs always classified as secret or
something else?
A Out of the assumptions I always assume that
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they are secret because it's on a secret net, sir.
Q Do you know if there's anything top secret?
A No, sir.
Q There's nothing top secret?
A No, sir.
Q Do you know if SigActs contain names of key
sources that are working with our government?
A Not names, sir.
Q And why not?
A Because that is a little bit higher level
of clearance, sir.
Q From your standpoint, do SigActs eventually
become dated more of a historical records?
A Yes, sir.
Q And when SigActs became dated more of a
historical record, are they still useful to you as an
analyst?
A Yes, sir.
Q How so?
A If I see something that ' s trending a
specific way, going back to something I've identified
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in the past, I can refer back to that and someone might
be using that . Maybe a detainee was released recently
and he ' s back to what he was doing . So now I know what
he was going to do based on what he did on those
historical findings, sir.
Q And after the SigActs in this case were
posted on line in open source, did you continue to use
SigActs as intel analysts.
A Yes, sir.
Q And why?
A Because they're just historic references,
now available online? When I say online, open source
unclassify to establish trends in your work?
sir .
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Could you still use the SigActs that were
A
Yes, sir.
Q
Could you still use those same SigActs to
make connections?
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Yes, sir.
Q
Did it change how you used the SigActs once
they were released by Wikileaks?
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A No, sir.
Q And why not?
A Because it's just historical information.
They don't know the process and the things that we do
to make that information into our products . Although
it ' s the same thing that we know what happened .
Q Do you know if the SigActs within the CIDNE
database stay secret forever?
A I don't know, sir.
Q I want to ask you a few questions now about
PFC Manning's work performance as an analyst. Okay?
A Yes, sir.
Q Were you able to view his duty performance
while he was deployed?
A Yes, sir.
Q And how so?
A While I was deployed I intermingled with
him a few times because my job is to oversee and make
sure that everybody was doing the right stuff and make
sure that the products were exactly what our boss and
our boss' boss would like.
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Q And based upon your ability to view his
performance, what was your assessment of his work
performance?
A It was good.
Q And can you explain . You thought he was
good?
A He was our best analyst by far when it came
to developing products . Anything you would ask him,
most soldiers you would have is to spell it out exactly
what they had to do . With Manning you would just give
him, hey, this is what I'm thinking. He would bounce a
couple of things off of you and come up with exactly
what you ' re looking for .
Q And with regards to his work products, what
he actually gave you at the end, how did you assess
those in quality?
A The best, sir. (INAUDIBLE) He was our
go-to guy for that stuff.
Q Can you give an example just again in
general unclassified description what type of product
you would actually hand to you?
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A I don't know the line of classification of
where we would go, but it would be very detailed and
everything outlined.
Q Did you ever hear anyone complain about PFC
Manning not being able to complete work on time?
A One time, and that was the Showman event.
Q So other than that no problems with him
completing work?
A No, sir.
Q How was PFC Manning's productivity level
compared to other analysts during the deployment?
A His was higher than everyone else's in the
shop, sir.
Q Did you ever notice a drop in his
productivity level in say March or April of 2010?
A No, sir.
Q How would you describe PFC Manning's
computer literacy?
A It was very high .
Q Why do you think that?
A Well, our conversations with his background
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on computer knowledge and then his demonstrations of
utilizing the systems that we had in place, sir.
Q Would you say that PFC Manning was
knowledgeable on the systems that you had on the D6A
computer?
A Yes, sir.
Q And why do you believe that?
A Because of the products that he came up
with, sir.
Q Did PFC Manning ever assist others with the
programs that are on they're D6A computers?
A Yes, sir.
Q Can you explain why you believe that?
A Well, I mean soldiers like Loraina, she
could have difficulties understanding how to make our
density plots and PFC Manning would show them, okay,
all you had to was this and this and thank you and they
would go back to doing what they do. He was always our
go-to guy for a lot of our shops, sir.
Q Loraina?
A Specialist Espean.
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Q With regards to just experience level as an
analyst, was PFC Manning a very experienced analyst?
A Not an experienced analyst, no, sir.
Q Was he still at a stage from your
estimation that he had a lot to he learn as an analyst?
A Yes, sir.
Q How long does it take to become basically
an expert analyst?
A It depends on the person and their
personality, sir.
Q In your experience from an analyst leaving
the AIT training to the point which they become an
expert where would you say that person is an expert
analyst, about how long does it take to get to that
point, in general?
A It depends on the individual, sir, because
some people never reach that point where like they
don ' t understand what they ' re doing and some people
they come straight out of AIT and they're amazing.
It's an individual base, sir.
Q And based upon your observation, you said
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that PFC Manning still had a lot to learn . Where was
he weak as an analyst?
A In his assessment, sir.
Q Can you explain why you thought that?
A Sometimes our junior analysts jump to
conclusions before they actually vented it through
everything, every source. They would use one or two
sources and then jump to a conclusion, instead of using
all of the sources and then bouncing it, you know, with
your partners and find out, okay, we both agree or we
disagree and this is why, and that's his socializing,
that ' s where it failed him a little bit .
Q Now, what programs would analysts use on
their D6A computers to conduct their data mining?
A We had mapping . We had CIDNE . We had
Humity reports, SigAct reports.
Q One of the programs on the D6A computer did
you have mIRC Chat?
A Yes, sir.
Q And was mIRC Chat, from your understanding,
part of the baseline package for the D6A computer or
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something that needed to be added?
A When I was there they all had it . I don ' t
know if they were added in between the time 10th
Mountain got there and when I got there, but when I was
there they were all on .
Q And when you were opening — first of all,
did you need mIRC Chat to do your job?
A Yes.
Q Why?
A So you could contact other units, other
companies, other battalions and it was an immediate
response to an analyst at that other end.
Q You said that when you got you thought that
I mIRC Chat was on everyone ' s computer . Let ' s talk
about your computer . How was mIRC Chat on your
computer?
A It was a little pop up symbol on my
computer. I just double click it and it opened up,
sir .
Q Was it on your desktop?
A Yes.
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Q Do you know what an executable file is?
A Somewhat, sir.
Q What is your understanding of an executable
file is?
A It ' s something that can function on its
own, sir. It's a program.
Q Did the S2 section allow analysts to run
executable files as a shortcut from the desktop to
their computers?
A They're not allowed to put them on the D6A,
and nothing was allowed to be downloaded onto the D6A
without permission from Mr. Millman or a D6A operator
before you we were allowed to put shortcuts that go to
our CDs or something or a quick reference .
Q I want to make sure I understand you
correctly because we talked about this on several
occasions, correct?
A Yes, sir.
Q Do you recall telling me that analysts, S2
sections, that analysts could run executable files from
the desktop of their computer as long as it was a
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shortcut?
A The shortcuts they could, yes, sir.
Q When you say shortcut, so if I have an
executable file put on it as a shortcut on my desktop
of my D6A computer and what is that?
A It ' s a quick link to it, sir. It's like a
link you click on it and it goes straight to that file
and opens it up.
Q Do you recall the S2 section saying that
analysts were —
MAJOR FEIN: Objection, Your Honor,
leading .
THE COURT: Sustained.
MR. COOMBS: Okay, Your Honor, can I
complete the question and then I don't believe it is?
THE COURT: Go ahead and complete the
question .
MR . COOMBS : Thank you .
BY MR. COOMBS:
Q Do you recall the S2 section indicating
that analysts were allowed to run executable files from
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a CD on their D6A computer?
THE COURT : I'm going to overrule on —
just a minute.
Overruled. Go ahead.
MAJOR FEIN: Objection, Your Honor,
hearsay .
THE COURT : Say the one more time .
MR. COOMBS: Do you recall the S2 section
allowing analysts to run executable files from a CD on
their D6A computer?
THE COURT: What is the Defense's response
to the government ' s hearsay objection?
MR. COOMBS: In this instance not offered
for the truth, it's relevant solely from the standpoint
of what was put out for analysts to understand. One of
the charges in this case is the government charging PFC
Manning for using an executable file on his computer.
You know, in this instance it's (INAUDIBLE).
THE COURT : I'll allow him to answer the
question. Go ahead.
THE WITNESS : As long as it was not
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downloaded to the actual D6A we could use it. If it
was on a CD, yes, we could.
BY MR. COOMBS:
Q And when were you informed that as long as
it was on a CD you could run an executable file?
A When I was trying to download a program on
it to it sometime in December and I had a conversation
with Mr. Millman who said we couldn't download anything
to the actual D6A because it owned by somebody else,
but we could keep it on a CD . So if it was not
download to the D6A (INAUDIBLE) .
Q With regards to the use of executable
files, did anyone in the S2 ever put out guidance that
using an executable file in a CD was against the
authorized user agreement?
A No, sir.
Q Did anyone in the S2 section put out
guidance that putting a shortcut for an executable file
on the desk of your D6A computer was against the user
agreement?
A No, sir.
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Q And you indicated you actually had put,
used an executable file from a CD on your D6A computer?
A No, I tried to but you needed an
administrative password that's why I went to Mr.
Millman to try to get that done .
Q To put it on the computer?
A Yes, sir.
Q How about to run it from your CD?
A I didn't have any problems with that, sir.
Q And that was an executable file from your
CD?
A Yes, sir.
Q With regards to the D6A computers, were
analysts allowed to listen to music on their D6A
computers?
A Yes, sir.
Q Did you have music in the T-SCIF?
A Yes, sir.
Q And where did the music come from?
A Some of it came from the T-Drive . They had
lot lots and lots of music from there, and some were
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from people's personal CDs, sir.
Q With regard to the T-Drive, how much
information was on the T-Drive, if you know?
A I don't know, sir.
Q Did you ever look to see how much music was
on the T-Drive?
A I know it was more than enough to overload
your computer. If you opened up and try to download
even half of it your computer would shut down. It
would turn off immediately.
Q Did anyone say that listening to music on
your D6A computer was against the user agreement?
A No, sir.
Q Were analysts allowed to watch movies in
the T-SCIF?
A Yes, sir.
Q Where did these movies come from?
A Sir, some of them came from the salesmen
outside and some of them came from the PX, some of them
were on the actual T-Drive as well .
Q And these movies were allowed to be brought
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into the T-SCIF?
A Yes, sir.
Q Did anyone in the S2 section say that
bringing movies into the T-SCIF was against the user
agreement?
A No, sir.
Q With regards to the T-SCIF, where did you
fall in the I guess the hierarchy of responsibility in
the T-SCIF?
A In the T-SCIF I had no responsibility over
the soldiers, just over the products.
Q So can you give us an idea of the chain of
command just in the T-SCIF?
A It was the soldiers, their shift, NCOIC of
OIC, whichever it was and then OIC, the two.
Q And where did you just within the S2
section, I understand you say you had no responsibility
for soldiers where did you fall in seniority just in
the S2 section?
A I was overall in charge of all of the
output from the fusion center.
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Q And when you say that, can you explain what
you would be responsible for?
A All of the products went through me and it
all went through me — it all went though me somehow.
It either came back through me or out through me . And
so if it was briefed to the commander or anybody higher
it would come to me for QAQC.
Q QAQC is quality assurance and quality
control?
A Yes, sir.
Q With regards to the soldiers, even though
they wouldn ' t working for you directly as far as you
having direct oversight of them per se, everything they
did went through you?
A Yes, sir.
Q And from your standpoint I guess as the
fusion OIC, would that be your position?
A Yes, sir.
Q Did you see anything in the T-SCIF when
soldiers used games, music, or movies, or executable
files that was against the user agreement, from your
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perspective?
A I didn't, no, sir.
Q Let me ask you a couple of questions about
terms used by analysts in their work product . Okay?
A Yes, sir.
Q Can you tell me what an intelligence gap
is?
A It's information that we don't have, that
we do not have at that time .
Q And what would you call if you don't have
it, that's something you don't know or just something
you ' re unsure of?
A It ' s something that we might have an idea
about, but we don't have — we don't know for sure what
it is .
Q When would you use the term intelligence
gap in a work product?
A If you didn't have the answer for who,
what, when, why or one of the five Ws or something.
Q If you had actual knowledge of a particular
fact, would you call that fact an intelligence gap?
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A If we had the knowledge of it, no it would
not be an intelligence gap.
MR. COOMBS: Thank you, sir.
THE WITNESS: Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Cross examination?
MAJOR FEIN: May we have a moment, Your
Honor?
THE COURT: Yes.
CROSS EXAMINATION
BY MAJOR FEIN:
Q Chief, first I'd like you to start off
testifying about restrictions or lack of restrictions
on SIPRnet .
First off, a person in order to access
SIPRnet, you had to have a security clearance, correct
A Yes, sir.
Q And information is presumed to be secret
that ' s on SIPRnet?
A Yes, sir.
Q That includes the databases on SIPRnet?
A Yes, sir.
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Q That includes the websites on SIPRnet?
A Yes, sir.
Q And everyone who worked on the T-SCIF in
that S2 section had stop secret SCI clearance?
A Yes, sir.
Q That included PFC Manning?
A Yes, sir.
Q And everybody who worked on SIPRnet at the
brigade had a secret clearance?
A At least, sir.
Q And when information from SIPRnet was
burned onto CDs, how were those CDs required to be
treated?
A All CDs were handled as secret .
Q Were they all labeled? You testified
earlier they weren't always, always labeled?
A Always labeled .
Q But they were still treated as secret .
A Yes, sir.
Q When information was burned for Iraqis to
share, that was a mission of the S2 section?
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A Yes, sir.
Q The mission was to share U.S. classified
information with the Iraqis?
A It was — well, there's different levels of
secret, sir; but there's releasable to, and if those
were releasable to Iraqis then we would use that, sir.
Q And who makes that determination?
A Either the user that puts it in or the
classification identifiers .
Q Sure, but the person who is burning it onto
a CD and ultimately sharing with the Iraqis, is that a
foreign disclosure officer?
A Yes, sir.
Q And are those specific trained individuals?
A Yes.
Q Who are the foreign disclosure officers in
the S2 shop?
A Lieutenant Airs and myself.
Q And it was your responsibility to review
information before it went to the Iraqis?
A Yes, sir.
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Q What other classified information burned
from SIPRnet was allowed out of the SCIF?
A If we needed to go to any other FOB or any
other location that was required to pass that
information to them, that ' s when it was —
Q Does that include the soldiers CHU?
A Yes, sir.
Q They ' re individual CHU they could take
classified on a CD to their individual CHU?
A I don't think that was practice, but I
don't see how that would have been stopped.
Q I ' 11 get to that in a moment whether it
could be stopped or not?
A Right .
Q Was anyone in your office that you knew
about authorized to burn classification information
from the SIPRnet onto a CD and take it to their CHU?
A The OIC and NCOIC were allowed to, sir.
Q What the purpose of that?
A Because they have SIPR connections .
Q So they actually had a work place in their
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CHU that had secret connections?
A Yes, sir.
Q Did others have?
A No, sir.
Q Others in the brigade have that?
A Yes, sir.
Q Like who?
A The OICs, I think the S6 as well, and the
battalion commander, brigade commander.
Q Did you have that in your CHU?
A No.
Q Did you have classified information in your
CHU?
A No, sir.
Q Did a junior enlisted have classified
information in their CHU?
A No, sir.
Q Was anyone who burned a CD from SIPRnet
with classified information on it they were allowed to
take it to their CHU and put it on to the Internet for
the whole world to see, were they?
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A No, sir.
Q Was there a rule written down in any SOP or
was that briefed during any meeting at the SCIF?
A As far as intelligence being put on to an
unclassified system? We learned that in AIT and every
time we go to a duty station, sir.
Q Was that something that was commonly known
within the brigade as to SCIF .
A It was commonly known throughout the whole
intelligence community .
Q Why do you focus on the intelligence
community versus even the whole Army?
A If they had a clearance then they
understand that, sir.
Q And everybody in the intelligence community
has a clearance?
A Yes, sir.
Q Everyone in the intelligence community,
especially 210 Mountain at that time when you deployed
with PFC Manning their job was to handle classified
information all the time, correct?
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SIPRnet .
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SIPRnet?
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Correct, sir.
So let ' s go through these restrictions on
What were the restrictions on SIPRnet?
No, sir.
But you had to have the ability to be on
Yes.
So you had to have a clearance?
Yes .
Would you consider a clearance a
restriction?
A Right . Everybody had a clearance .
Q On SIPRnet?
A Everybody in our shop had a, you know,
like —
Q So when you testified earlier no
restriction on SIPRnet, you meant for individuals in
your shop, what they did on SIPRnet?
A Yes .
Q Could anyone offer the treat do anything
think want to do SIPRnet?
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No.
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Why?
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Because they didn't have the access or
clearance .
Q
Now, let's talk about SIPRnet itself. You
mentioned a bunch of different databases. Without your
repeating them all, if you could — you would agree
that if you could get to the information on SIPRnet
with a clearance then you could access that
information?
A Yes, sir.
Q And you had the D6A system as the system
provided to you as an intelligence analyst by the Army
to do that?
A Yes, sir.
Q You had programs on the D6A computer to
help you do that?
A Yes.
Q You had the SIPRnet Internet to help you do
that?
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Yes, sir.
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Q You had Intel Link to help you do that?
A Yes.
Q You had intel media to do that?
A Yes.
Q And if it was on intelpedia you could
access it and you could use it?
A Yes, sir.
Q And the mission of 210 Mountain was to
focus on your brigade AO which is the Southeast area
Baghdad, correct?
A Yes, sir.
Q And so intelpedia on SIPRnet contained
classified information?
A Yes, sir.
Q And that classified information required
individuals to have clearances?
A Yes, sir.
Q Sign a nondisclosure agreement?
A Yes, sir.
Q Have background investigations?
A Yes, sir.
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Q To the best of your memory, no soldier in
your S2 stop as you mentioned you were not technically
in charge of any of them, but to the best of your
memory no one was authorized to use classified
information for personal use?
A Yes, sir.
Q Now, let's talk about D6A. D6A was the
computer system you were provided, correct?
A Yes, sir.
Q What was the first system when you joined
the Army that you used as a junior enlisted analyst .
A The ASAF, sir.
Q Was that the predecessor to the D6A?
A Yes .
Q Did that run on a classified network?
A Yes, sir.
Q Again, did D6A replace that?
A Late nineties .
Q In your own words for the Court, how do you
describe D6A, the system?
A It 1 s just a consolidated — a computer with
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everything on it that we need as analysts .
Q So everything you need as an analyst?
A Yes, sir.
Q What are of — so the programs that the
Army and you use as an analyst. What are their names?
A The ones that we identified. There's
mapping. There's different maps that they change
throughout the years .
Q So in Iraq when you were 210, when PFC
Manning was there, what were the ones that you remember
then?
A I know CIDNE . I know there was Intel Link .
There was intelpedia, and I don't remember the map, the
mapping .
Q
Was there a GIS type of program?
A
Yes.
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Was a Query Tree?
A
Yes.
Q
What ' s a Query Tree?
A
Is what we would type in a search for
anything. We could use part of the name, some of the
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name with different symbols or variations of things to
find out information on that specific item —
Q I'm sorry, please, go the ahead.
A On that specific item or person, sir.
Q When someone who had to have a secret
clearance to use the Query Tree to query different
databases that were on SIPRnet, correct?
A You had to have secret clearance, yes.
Q When you typed in Query Tree it allowed you
to search databases for the information you 1 re looking
for?
A Yes, sir.
Q Because you said it searched everything?
A Yes .
Q And by everything you mean almost every
database you can think of as an intel analyst?
A Yes, sir.
Q But on the SIPRnet, the secret system,
Jwikes, the higher level?
A Yes, sir.
Q What was a Google maps?
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A There was Google Earth .
Q How was Google Earth used?
A We only used Google Earth when we wanted
the defined pictures because they had a better
satellite image than the military one that we used.
Q Google Earth was on SIPRnet, correct?
A Yes, sir.
Q And the information put on Google Earth was
from classified information?
A Yes, sir.
Q You mentioned CIDNE a few times . Just to
clarify a few points — first before that, about PFC
Manning's computer literacy you testified just now
about .
You said that he was good at utilizing the
tools he had on the computers?
A Yes, sir.
Q Are those tools you're talking about right
now?
A Yes, sir.
Q Do you know what WGet is?
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A No.
Q You don't know what WGet is?
A I don't —
Q So you don't know if he was good or bad at
using WGet?
A No, sir.
Q Was WGet to the best of your memory one of
those D6 tools the Army provided for you to do intel?
A
I don't know what WGet is, sir.
Q
(INAUDIBLE)
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Yes, sir.
Q
Query Tree, GIS, Google Maps?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
CIDNE?
A
Yes, sir.
Q
But you testified he was as a junior a
analyst he was weak in his ability to assess?
A Yes.
Q How did you assess whether he was good at
utilizing the tools if he was weak in his assessments?
A Being an analyst is a two-part job. You
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have products and you can always paint a picture of
what ' s actually happening . And then you have the
second part of being an analyst is taking that
information and then making some deductive reasoning or
some assessments on what you think is actually going to
happen or how you think that's going to affect the
enemy or the friendly.
Q So then would it be accurate to say you
have to understand what you ' re looking at and you have
to understand how to apply what you're looking at?
A Yes, sir.
Q Was he good at step one of what he was
looking at?
A Yes, sir. Without a doubt, sir.
Q Using a rating scale of 1 to 10, 10 being
the world's best analyst which I'm sure you are a 10
and then 1 being not through AIT . How would you rate
PFC Manning in how to use the information?
A How to use —
Q How to analyze it?
A He ' s maybe a 5 .
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Q How do you rate him on that 1 to 10 scale
of what the information is because he could respond to
everything you asked him to do and he pulls the data.
A A ten, sir.
Q Is that what you mean when you talk about
data mining?
A Yes.
Q And that data mining, what tools did use to
data mine for your?
A Query Tree was the most common, sir.
Q What about CIDNE?
A CIDNE was used as well .
Q And CIDNE was used, was SigActs used?
A Yes, sir.
Q And he pulls SigActs?
A Yes, sir.
Q Could you explain more for the Court what
you mean by the term density plot? What ' s a density
plot?
A Yes, sir. That's what I was talking about
with the colors or the intensity of the attack and it
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fades out to a lighter color with the less attacks that
are in that location it would go lighter and lighter .
So it's hot spots basically, sir.
Q And I should have asked a more specific
question . What information does an analyst or did PFC
Manning use to make that density plot?
A All those programs we used use them to
identify whether it be a small arms attack or IAD
attach or an ambush or even kidnapping, anything like
that that you ' d use that information in CIDNE you could
use it from any of the databases .
Q And you use density plots in your line of
work?
A Yes, sir.
Q And density plots showed what happened in
the past?
A Yes, sir.
Q So you use that historic information you're
talking about?
A Yes.
Q It ' s that historic information that was
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used that PFC Manning was very good at from density
plots came from CIDNE is one of the sources?
A Yes, sir.
Q And you had mentioned IAD information?
A Yes, sir.
Q You would agree that CIDNE had (INAUDIBLE)
engagement s ?
A It had not specifics of the engagement, but
it the have generalized engagements, yes, sir.
Q It had you mentioned IAD, the TTP that we
follow in reacted to IAD .
A Yes .
Q The TTPs we follow in finding IADs?
A It didn 1 t explain how we found them, sir .
It would explain what happened in that event .
Q When ground penetrating radar worked or did
not work?
A No, sir.
Q It wouldn't explain that?
A No, it didn't explain that.
Q From the staff you write?
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A Yes, sir.
Q I assume you also have not read every
single SigAct in CIDNE?
A Yes, sir.
Q How many times have you deployed?
A Five times .
Q In what theaters?
A In Afghan and Iraq, sir.
Q How many times in each?
A One in Afghan and four in Iraq.
Q How many times in 210 Mountain?
A Twice — three times with 10th Mountain and
twice with (INAUDIBLE) .
Q Thank you. You would agree that CIDNE has
medivac reports sent?
A Yes, sir.
Q How we medivac?
A Yes, sir.
Q How we find our kidnapped soldiers?
A It didn't tell how to, it just tells the
results of it.
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Q What we did once someone was kidnapped?
A No . It was the actual event . There ' s no
report on what we did or how we reacted to it . It ' s a
report of just facts on what happened during that
event .
Q What happened on the ground then?
A Yes, sir.
Q And those types of reports you relied on
PFC Manning to understand what was in them to pull the
information you needed?
A Yes, sir.
Q And he was good at that?
A Yes, sir.
Q He was a 10 at that?
A Yes, sir.
Q Would you have gone to him if you didn't
understand what was in the CIDNE database?
A I would still utilized him, but not that
much —
Q You had confidence that he understood
exactly that type of information that was there?
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A Yes, sir.
Q Earlier you testified about mIRC Chat .
MIRC Chat was there when you showed up?
A Yes, sir.
Q What unit did you go out with?
A The 82nd.
Q 3rd Brigade, 82 Airborne?
A Yes, sir.
Q When you worked out there (INAUDIBLE) you
fell out on what their all source tech computer?
A Yes, sir.
Q And then that you did a left C right C with
that all source tech?
A No, I did not, sir.
Q You didn't get that opportunity?
A No, sir. I started a month later.
Q When you showed up a month later mIRC was
on that computer?
A Yes, sir.
Q Earlier you testified about the use of open
source intelligence. How did 210 Mountain use op sent
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in your daily operations?
A If we wanted to look for other information,
if we're trying to confirm something happened or add to
our packet because we they target different things like
that that we could get any kind of intelligence,
whether it would be from CNN or from intel media, we
would get it .
Q And the SigActs you're testifying about
that came from CIDNE?
A Yes, sir.
Q And CIDNE was on SIPRnet?
A Yes, sir.
Q And most SigActs were classified secret?
A Yes, sir.
Q What is the classification of open source
information?
A Unclassified.
Q Unclassified?
A Yes, sir.
Q Can it be classified if there's analysis
with it?
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A If it was analysis put on it, then it would
be removed in unclassified because that's usually what
makes a SigAct classified is when it has an assessment
or analysis onto it and it moves to the secret .
Q Thank you. But for open source information
it's unclassified unless it has analysis with it?
A It can have analysis just as long as it's
not done by an intelligence professional .
Q Because then why?
A Because we have that training to make —
and the information to make a more educated analytic
view .
Q Was that the training you think that PFC
Manning did or did not have?
A Yes, we have that, all of us.
Q Did he have that or not?
A Yes, sir.
MAJOR FEIN: One moment, please, Your
Honor .
THE COURT: Okay.
BY MAJOR FEIN:
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Q Also earlier when Mr. Coombs asked you
questions I think there was some confusion with
executable versus something on your desktop.
If you had a short up on your desktop do
you believe that to be an executable?
A No, sir.
Q What do you believe it does?
A That brings you to whatever that executable
file is, sir.
Q So it ' s just a link to point you to where
the other file is?
A Yes, sir.
Q And, to the best of your memory, you were
not authorized put any executable files onto your
actual D6A machine?
A That's correct, sir.
Q You remember you testified that you were
told by Mr . Millman apparently that you could have
executables on a CD?
A Yes, sir.
Q And then you can run the CD?
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A We could run the CD .
Q So long as you didn't have to be an
administrator?
A Yes, sir.
Q So you could run it on the CD?
A Yes, sir.
Q But you could not put it on your desktop,
the file itself?
A Right .
Q And prior to your preparation for this
testimony, had you ever heard of the term executable
file?
A No, sir.
Q So what is it that you remember Mr . Millman
telling you about a CD?
A That we were not allowed to put any kind of
programs or anything without going through him.
Everything that had to be downloaded onto the computer
had to go through him because he was overall
responsible for those systems .
Q So whatever this is on this CD you went to
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him?
A Yes, sir.
Q And after you went to him he said just run
it on the CD, you're fine?
A If we had any intentions of putting it onto
the desktop we had to go to him. If it was run off the
CD we didn't to have go to him.
Q And you sought that clarification?
A Yes, sir.
Q So you don ' t recall today whether that
thing on the CD was a self-executable or just a program
because you don't know the difference between the two?
A No , I do not .
MAJOR FEIN: No further questions, Your
Honor .
THE COURT: Redirect?
MR. COOMBS: Yes, Your Honor.
REDIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. COOMBS:
Q Chief, I just want to clear up that last
point then to make sure .
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So do you recall me sending an e-mail to
you to seek clarification on this point of how you
could use a executable file either on a CD or as a
shortcut on the desktop of your computer?
A Yes, sir.
Q And with regards to — I only want to ask
you from what you were told and from your perspective .
Okay?
A Yes, sir.
Q You had earlier said that you ran something
from a CD and you didn 1 t need to the seek guidance or
permission for that because that was permitted. Do you
recall saying that?
A Yes, sir.
Q What did you run from a CD?
A There's different things that we had to
click on . I know I ran — maybe that was a movie
player or something like that . I know I ran a movie
player from that, a BLC.
Q All right . So a movie player was a program
that you didn't have on your D6A computer but you did
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have it as a program on a CD and you could run it from
a CD?
A Yes, sir.
Q On the D6A?
A Yes, sir.
Q And presumably I guess if you were doing a
movie player you had something on your D6A computer
that you wanted to use that movie player to play?
A Right .
Q Did anyone say that was against the user
agreement to do that?
A No, sir.
Q Now, when you have a shortcut on the
desktop of your computer that links you to a CD. So if
you click a shortcut and it runs whatever you have on
the CD, was that permitted?
A Yes, sir.
Q Did you have to go to Mr . Millman or anyone
else to get permission to do that?
A No, sir.
Q When you say permitted like do you recall
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that was put out by the S2 section or how was that
permitted?
A When we I seek clarification for what we
could put on the computers , that ' s the guidance . They
told us as long as you don 1 1 download it onto the
actual computer, you can use it.
Q So tell me if this was permitted. If I had
say WGet or say I had some executable program on a CD
and I plugged it in and —
MAJOR FEIN: Objection, the witness has
already said he doesn't understand the difference
between an executable and an installable file or
program. There's not sufficient basis here to continue
with this line of questioning.
MR. COOMBS: I don't believe that's what
the witness said, Your Honor. I believe the witness
said prior to maybe this court martial wasn't as
familiar with the term executable file, but he knew
what an executable was .
I actually asked him that during my
direct .
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THE COURT:
What is an executable file?
THE WITNESS : Something that could be run
by itself, ma'am.
THE COURT : What ' s the other program you
used?
MAJOR FEIN:
The foundation between
something that could be run on its own versus a program
that would be installed and the defense between the
two .
about what kind of a program could be used in a
computer with a CD and shortcut added to the desktop?
What, if any, restrictions on what's on that CD are
there?
THE WITNESS : I was under the impression
that there was no restrictions on the actual CD .
THE COURT: It doesn't matter what kind of
a program it is, anything goes?
THE COURT: What is your understanding
THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am.
THE COURT:
Overruled.
Go ahead .
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BY MR. COOMBS:
Q If I had a different program on a CD and I
placed a shortcut for that program on my desktop to run
it and I double clicked and it ran, from your
perspective was that against the user agreement from
your understanding?
A No, sir.
Q And you had talked about on cross the
various programs that were available to you from the
D6A computer, and when I asked you what program you
used on the CD you said it was a version of the media
player; is that right?
A Yes, sir.
Q So how did you get that version of the
media place that wasn't available on the D6A computer?
Where did you go get that version on the CD?
A It was a CD that was given to me, sir.
Q Do you know where that came from?
A I do not remember, sir.
Q If a soldier downloaded something from
NIPRnet and burned it onto a CD, any sort of program,
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and then put that into their D6A computer to run from
the CD was that from your understanding against the
user agreement?
A You ' re allowed to do that , but you ' re not
allowed to do it the other way around.
Q When you say the other way around when you
put it on the computer — and I want to make sure
there's no confusion there.
When you're putting it on the computer, the
program, is that something that you need to have
administrative rights to do?
A If you were going to do download it onto
the computer you need administrative right .
Q You can said this is beyond your computer
knowledge, but if you didn't have admin rights to the
D6A computer, could you do that?
A I know I couldn ' t do it .
Q Even if you wanted to like if you said,
look, I'm going to add this program to my D6A computer,
you didn't have admin rights, from your understanding
you couldn't do it?
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A Right .
Q Even if you wanted to?
A Yes, sir.
Q That might be an example of why that was
not permitted?
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Honor?
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Yes, sir.
THE COURT: Any last —
MAJOR FEIN: May I have a moment, Your
THE COURT: Yes.
MAJOR FEIN: No further questions, Your
Honor .
THE COURT: Chief, I have a couple of them.
Just to make sure that I understood your testimony.
You wanted to have a media viewer from a CD and you put
that into your computer.
THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am.
THE COURT: And you put a shortcut on the
desktop to use that?
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to the CD, ma'am. I have a shortcut to the CD player.
THE COURT: You had a shortcut to the CD
player?
THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am.
THE COURT: Why did you go to Mr. Millman
at all about using that CD?
THE WITNESS: If the CD got scratched or
you lost it or something, you didn't have access to
that computer or to that program no more . So I always
put stuff on my computer. Anything I wanted to put on
it that was not already on the D6A I had to go through
Mr . Millman .
THE COURT: So this media viewer, did you
actually run it from the CD or did Mr . Millman put it
on your computer?
THE WITNESS : I ran it from a CD for a
while until Mr . Millman said it was okay to put it
on and he eventually put it on for me .
THE COURT: I thought I heard earlier that
you tried to use it from the CD and you needed
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THE WITNESS: I initially tried to put
on it myself.
THE COURT: On the computer?
THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am.
THE COURT: If you weren't supposed to add
things to the computer then why did you do that?
THE WITNESS : Because I did not know at
that time that the D6A was not our property and that ' s
why we're not allowed to put that on the D6A because
they were not our 210 property. I assumed they were
ours from home, which they were not.
THE COURT: Were there any restrictions
that you ' re aware of with respect to putting a program
on a CD that actually accesses the classified
information on the SIPR?
THE WITNESS: No, ma'am.
THE COURT: Any follow-up based on that?
MR. COOMBS: No, Your Honor.
MAJOR FEIN: No, ma'am.
THE COURT: Temporary or permanently
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MR . COOMBS : Permanent , Your Honor .
Actually temporary. I apologize.
THE COURT: You are temporarily excused.
Please don't discuss your testimony or rules of the
case with anyone other than the lawyers of the accused
or the prosecutors .
THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am.
THE COURT: Is now a good time to take
lunch or do you want to go for another witness?
MR . COOMBS :
Lunch break, Your Honor.
THE COURT:
How long would you like?
MR . COOMBS :
If we could have an hour and
15 minutes .
THE COURT:
Any objection?
MAJOR FEIN:
No , ma ' am .
THE COURT:
Court is in recess until 1345
or 1:45.
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12:15 p.m. for lunch.)
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